Taylor Swift on Getting Advice From Stevie Nicks: ‘She Paved the Way’

Taylor Swift discussed a variety of topics on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert on Wednesday, from her engagement to Travis Kelce to her upcoming Disney+ docuseries The End of an Era. She also touched on her relationship with Stevie Nicks.

When Colbert asked her who she turns to for advice, Swift said, “I try really hard not to do the whole like, ‘Oh, my god, there’s no one that can relate to what I’m going through!’ You know what I mean? Nobody wants to hear that. I don’t want to hear it. It annoys me when I start to go down that path. So I try to find through-lines in many people’s experiences. Like, I think we can relate to each other, even if our lives aren’t identical.”

“But that said,” she continued, “I’ve been very lucky. I have Stevie Nicks in my life in a way that affects me positively constantly. Being able to talk to her and have a phone call with her and hear what she’s been through, she paved the way for me and any other artist that get to do this on this level. So I feel very lucky that she’s lended her very magical, wonderful, wise approach to life to me.”